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The NEL ASIA table thing got me thinking, maybe I should have inquired about getting an OLF table for all the OLF Members that would have liked to show there guitars, and didn't get a table of there own? Would have been a nice testimonial to the talented builders that frequent this site.

Hmm, maybe next time!

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Lance@LuthiersForum.com

Great idea Lance!

However, I wouldn't put one of mine on the same table with some of the incredible work I've seen here.

Maybe after another 20 or so......

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Dave Rector
Rector Guitars

Are other OLF'ers interested?

This isn't a competition, you know -- it's a way to show your work and
get feedback from your peers without the pressure of showing at a sales
event like Healdsburg. We're even offering a "Student Guitar Evaluation"
where you can have your guitar evaluated by the likes of Judy Threet,
Julius Borges, Linda Manzer, et al. Again, it's a learning experience
without fear of public humiliation.

If the OLF wants a table, I'll see what I can do.

Sounds like a great opportunity for any OLFERS!
Thanks RIck, lets see if there are any interested folks?



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Lance@LuthiersForum.com

Rick, I didn't mean to imply that any of the ASIA or OLF members would in any way humiliate me if one of my guitars was among theirs.

I just think I would see how much better theirs are and that would depress me for weeks after the event.

I have seen the type of builders here on OLF and am aware of some of the folks that belong to ASIA. I am just being honest when I say, I don't measure up yet.
Keyword here is "yet". I'm still working on it.

Sorry for any misunderstanding.

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Dave Rector
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Dave - I am preplaning a month of depression after ASIA so ya may as well join in

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Lance@LuthiersForum.com

Dave,

My point was just that no one, even hacks like me, should be concerned
about comparing their work with anyone else's. I didn't take it that you
were worried about nasties coming from ASIA folks.

When I started, I spent several days driving to builders in the Northeast,
getting their critiques of my guitars. Several people were very generous
with time and thought. I gained a lot from their responses but it took a
lot of time and money. With the Symposia, I made it a point for people to
have the opportunity to have their work evaluated in a "safe" environment
-- it's incredibly valuable. We spend too much time working alone, trying
to find solutions to the same problems that other solo workers are
dealing with, too. The Web, OLF and other forums are great for
disseminating information but nothing can take the place of hands-on
evaluation.

One area in which the Web totally fails is evaluating tone. I have some
good players to whom I can take instruments, but nothing beats having
other luthiers pick up the instrument and play it. I know where I've done
less than my best in fit and finish, but having a knowledgeable set of ears
evaluate the guitar is essential to my development as a builder. I truly
treasure the comments and suggestions I've received at Symposia -- and
try to apply them with each new guitar I make.

So don't be shy! Each of us is our own worst critic. It's good to have the
folks we respect give us feedback -- and it's often better than we might
expect.

[QUOTE=Rick Davis] Again, it's a learning experience
without fear of public humiliation.

[/QUOTE]

Nope just peer humiliation!

but I doubt I will get depressed. Yea there will be a ton of work far better than mine at the symposium, but I hope to come home re-generated. Whenever I am feeling a little down on my building (after seeing some really great guitars) I just go to a Guitar Center and pull down the $3000 guitars and play them for about 5 minutes. That usually makes me feel pretty good about my stuff. johno38510.5496875

Rick, you rule.... thanks for the anxiety adjustment.

cant wait for next week.

c`mon guys bring stuff in!

Matt

Thanks for the encouragement Rick!

Now, I only wish I could make it to the symposium.

Probably still wouldn't have the guts to bring one of mine though.

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Dave Rector
Rector Guitars

Since I get FAR more out of OLF than I could ever contribute, I'd be happy to pay for an OLF table at ASIA if others would like to use it. Rick you can email me for payment details if you like. I really don't need another round of meals though, since I got that with my registration and one institutional meal at a time is all I can handle.

jerry -at- hossom.com

Well....

I have to conclude this was an unwelcome offer. Sorry if I offended anyone.

Common guys and gals! ANYBODY INTERESTED?
Id be happy to take your guitars for you, if you shipped them to me by Wednesday next week, This is a great opportunity!

Jerry what a nice gesture!

Anybody wanna represent the OLF? Beginner to Master! Thats what we are here! Thats what the OLF Represents, and guitars of all levels would be fantastic!

Lance

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Lance@LuthiersForum.com

Thanks Lance, the offer stands if it's useful. Certainly a guestbook of OLF attendees would make a nice souvenir, and maybe just a spot on the table to annouce OLF gatherings would be a help as well.

In any case, the table's available if anyone wants it. Guitars optional. There is no one more of a beginner than I am. I can't even play the guitar, but am determined to make one (or more) anyway...

Jerry,

What an excellent offer! The most common complaint I've heard about having a table is the inability to leave it unattended and see the other work in the hall. OLF table = problem solved! And ya can't beat FREE OF CHARGE!!! Wish I could be there!

Carlton

Jerry,
Thanks for your kind offer. I wish I was good enough at building to actually show something. But I will be refinishing guitar #2, so it will be stripped. I'm suprised many more here have not jumped at this chance. It is a great opportunity to get your work exposed to others for free. Thanks again!
Tracy

Jerry thats a great offer. It would be nice to have an OLF gathering point. See you there.

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The table will be there with the OLF name on it. It'll look sillier with
nothing on it than with your handiwork, so bring your instruments and
show 'em off!

Lance, bring some OLF propaganda --umm, I mean marketing info.


Rick

okay guys... I will try and bring a guitar. I am flying in on standby so there is always the possibilty I won't even get there at all but if I do, which would you rather have a classical or steel string on display? I could probably get away flying with only one. I think two would be pushing my luck.

Thanks Rick! Ill get some flyer's printed up ASAP -- also, I'm busting butt (As is everyone I assume) to get two guitars finished up to bring with.

Common guys! Bring what ya got! Remember, this will represent the OLF ( Makers of ALL Levels ) Maybe something less than perfect will spur on the confidence of a young yet to be guitar maker.

Give me a show of hands! Who's gonna have the wherewithal to display a guitar?

Robbie, Id love to see one of your steel strings if I had a choice.

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Lance@LuthiersForum.com

I'll have a mandolin with me. I'll be happy to have it spend some time on the OLF table but I do need to have something to play as well.

Thanks Mike!

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Lance@LuthiersForum.com

[QUOTE=LanceK]Common guys! Bring what ya got![/QUOTE]

Just to chime in on my dilima with this....

I have either sold or given away every guitar I have built with the exception of my first and the ones that are not quite finished.

With the exception of a botched inlay job I would feel ok bringing my first, but I don't think that is a good representation of what I am building now.

So I am torn... I would rather get feedback on my current guitars rather than my first.

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Columbus, Ohio
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Brock, I've you've given some away you might ask one of the lucky recepients to lend you the guitar for a week. I know I'd have no problem with that if someone gave me a guitar.

What's your opinion of displaying guitars that are not *quite* finished yet? I have been working around the clock, but won't have mine strung up for ASIA.

Since this is a show for builders, I am planning on setting them up. I think they'll be interesting for people to see - and I'd like to get feedback.

My hesitation is that without strings, it's more like sculpture than a musical instrument.

Thoughts? (At least I'll have a playable uke.)